@manton Well said! I’m curious (because I struggle with it myself) on where you land with 37signals — if you care to share. I mostly like the products, but have become increasingly uncomfortable with DHH’s (and somewhat JF’s) views. Now they write on their personal blogs (which I can and do ignore these days) instead of the company site…and yet…I wouldn’t feel great about using or recommending their products like I used to.